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My response to the haters - A ngadm follow up

Posted by jpbear - August 27th, 2012

I posted a very in depth response in the description to all the judges and reviewers to my NGADM submission, feel free to respond to me here if you wanna talk about it.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/498130

Remember to follow me on soundcloud, i post a lot of stuff there with copyrighted samples and not fully serious pieces.

http://soundcloud.com/masqofficial

Regarding life, started university (university of houston) today and went on retreat this weekend with my university honors college. This years gonna be pretty rad, i hope ill have time to make music for yall.

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FrozenFire

I thought it was pretty well done and that it got progressively better as time went on. I don't think it was bad by any means.

None of the music posted on this site came without first being pure experimentation.

jpbear (Updated )

most of my stuff is rather normal, 4/4 and so on, experimentation should begin once you have a grasp on traditional techniques.

the learning process isnt experimentation into status quo music

its satus quo music into experimentation.

and music made with the first scenario will be bad.

but thanks anyways, love your work

PIED3

I think frozenfire meant experimentation as in subjective experimentation: doing things you haven't done before or in ways you haven't done them.
You took it as in objective experimentation: doing things that are unique/unusual and that aren't the status quo.

jpbear

my bad 3:

PIED3

Listened to the song and liked it, but perhaps i was influenced by your critique of those who didn't?

jpbear

A lot of times people gain more respect from an artist when they know where their music is coming from.

This is the reason most people tend to enjoy works by artists they admire and trust to make quality.

I tend to let my music speak for itself but this time it was necessary to say something.

Step

Sorry for the late reply, had to respond to this.

Your track is highly well-produced. Its sounds are just shockingly good. It's a great soundscape with a compelling atmosphere and the mixing is incredible. Those are all good.

However this borders close to experimental noise. This isn't necessarily a bad thing as you've pointed out - people make these kinds of tracks. It's something new, it offers a new experience. But for the NGADM, it IS a bad thing and I think this is where we're not understanding each other.

It doesn't have many melodic or rhythmic elements. It has enough for it to be considered music, of course (there's a pretty big grey area between what is and isn't considered music), but it strays from the concept of having melodic and rhythmic elements playing together in a structured form that makes harmonic sense.

It's an experience in itself but it's inarguably closer to experimental noise than all the other NGADM tracks in history. And this is a bad thing for the NGADM, as it's outlined in the rules that this is a music competition so experimental noise isn't accepted. Any NGADM submission that strays from the concept of music and edges closer to experimental soundscapes/noise will get marks reduced.

If you can accept that then we'll have the whole issue sorted.

jpbear (Updated )

I cant accept that honestly,

Id rather not be in a contest with views such as these,

even though i know many musicians hold views like these.

2 or 3 judges or reputable site members flat out said it wasnt music or it was experimental noise, which is really pathetic.

Your mindset is a lot more mature than other people's, and im glad it is that way.

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